Possible Stolen IP Address


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richars1
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I am not a frequent poster so I'm not sure which thread this belongs in, but over the weekend I joined a couple of "techie" forums. I've been hacked on more than one occasion and I was interested in finding out how to protect myself. Upon making an introduction, a poster immediately accused me of having had 4 different accounts on the site and being a poster who blasts members on other internet forums. I was subsequently banned. And quite unfairly, I might add. I had never been to said forum prior to that. I'm not sure if my IP address is being framed or what, but any assistance that can be offered will be greatly appreciated.

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Possible Stolen IP Address
A message popped up on my computer while using it that my IP address was already being used by another computer and that I should either change my IP address or that of the other user. I have been notified by our internet provider that my IP address has been identified as one that illegally entered a secure site. I have no clue how to do that and have found conflicting information on the web about changing an IP address on a Mac. I honestly don't know what to do about it because the "offense" with my IP was almost a month prior to that message pop-up on my computer.
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Your internet provider assigns an IP address to your cable or DSL modem. That IP address can, and will change all the time. It might change when you turn it off and back on, or it could change randomly. It's not your problem or your job for you to worry about, or have to change your internet IP address - because it doesn't matter.

If you have a "router" in your home which allows more than one computer to use your internet connection, then each computer, smartphone, etc, using your internet connection has it's own "internal" (to your home) IP address. Even though they have their own IP, when they connect to the internet they all go through that one, shared IP address proved by your provider and assigned to your router or modem. Sometimes two devices will be given the same (internal/private) IP address from your router and this can cause the message that you are describing. This IP address has nothing to do with your real, internet-facing IP address that your provider gives to your router. But it is possible that if someone 'borrowed' or hacked into your network - like if you have a WiFi with no password, they could have done something from your network, which would show as coming via that single internet-facing IP address. If someone is snooping around inside your network via your wifi, this could potentially cause this error message.. so, if you have Wifi I would make sure it is password protected.

I'm not sure what the point is about what your internet provider is telling you. Either you are going to jail or in big trouble, or they are warning you.. there is no need or reason to change your IP address because of this but like I said above, secure your WiFi, and make sure that if you have any Windows computers in the house they are all patched and secured with antimalware software.

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Verizon cell phone not working, called Verizon support from phone number gotten off web. Support said my IP address had been hacked and someone was using data from my smart phone's data right now (cell phone uses my IP address thru wifi, they said). Talked me into letting them on my computer to check this out. Four IP addresses were active and one did not begin with the same first 3 numbers (IP addresses are given by area of location, they said). Said someone was trying to hack into my hard drive as we spoke. Did not as me to shut off wifi or computer, so I did anyway. Said a "white hat technician" would have to clean up my apple computer. They would have to contact the white hat technicians for me. Likely cost about $400. Thru Apple it would cost 6x more. They had access to my computer for about 5 minutes. Called ISP - they said by turning back on my computer and wifi, I had changed my IP address. What else do I need to do? How much damage can be done by Alex and Steve - likely Raj and Amad (spoke with accents).
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So, to be clear and to avoid confusion for other readers. Your IP did not get hacked or stolen.. Your computer did (so they say). IP addresses do not get 'hacked'.
The rest of this story seems very suspicious and improbable.
1) You called Verizon mobile support and they had a computer expert ready and waiting, with the required systems to remote-in to your computer? Verizon Mobile does not do computer support!
2) They could see/tell that someone was trying to "hack into your hard-drive"? and how, exactly could they see/know tell this?
3) A "white hat technician"? W T F?! That's not even a (professional) thing! Verizon does NOT have a staff of "white hat technicians!"
4) Through Apple would cost 6x more? How do they know? Did they even tell you what was 'wrong' ? Do they have access to Apple's pricing?

You got scammed (sounds like you realize this) I would LOVE to know what number you dialed and where, exactly, you got it from. If they really had access to your computer, the risk of "damage", meaning they could have planted who-knows-what on your computer, is great. Even if your IP address has changed, if they planted something, you're screwed.

Were you able to watch the screen and see what they were doing, or were they just saying a lot of fancy technical stuff to scare you? Did they ask you for any passwords to the computer?

ggootee (not verified)
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I just did the exact same thing and I finally told him I was uncomfortable with him being on my computer especially when I was calling for my Verizon phone. Should I worry he did something to my computer??
Roxanne (not verified)
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My father thinks that someone has hijacked his IP. When he looks at his IP settings in Windows, it flat out tells him it is being shared with Bob Jones (whom he does not know). His ISP using dynamic IP addresses, but multiple reboots have not fixed the issue. This Jones person has been spamming folks, and Microsoft shut down dad's Hotmail account because it looked like he was the one doing the spamming. He says he spoke to Microsoft on the phone and they explained that's why they shut down his account. My dad is not terribly computer literate, and I can usually fix his problems remotely, but I've never encountered anything like this before. I'm going to suggest he try the rebooting the router trick mentioned above. Any other thoughts or ideas would be greatly appreciated.
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his computer is almost certainly infected with malware.. no reboots are going to help. The computer will need to be cleaned and disinfected.. or thrown away and replace with a Mac Smile
His hotmail account and other accounts may have also been compromised. it might be time for professional help.

Anonymous Visitor (not verified)
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I was told someone used my ip and accessed a bank account but it wasn't me I don't know what to do please help
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Stolen IP Address

Read all the other comments in this thread - your IP address cannot be 'stolen'.. as long as you arent giving away your internet connection (and IP address) via an unsecured WiFi setup and as long as your PC is not infected with malware the possibility of someone else using your IP address is virtually zero..

Who told you this?

Anonymous Visitor (not verified)
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Google thremselves...told me..
Anonymous Visitor (not verified)
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I beleve someone has stolen my ip address to create an email acct. to make it look like it was created on my home computer. how is this possible and can I prove that my ip adress has been stolen
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Read all the other comments in this thread - your IP address cannot be 'stolen'.. as long as you arent giving away your internet connection (and IP address) via an unsecured WiFi setup the possibility of someone else using your IP address is virtually zero..
You could easily prove it was not you via the email company's records, your Internet Service Provider's records, or the internet service provider records of the perpetrator - meaning, there is no way you can 'prove' it on your own without legal assistance (unless you are a judge or an attorney)..

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Thank you
Hans van der Mierden Holland (not verified)
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I've got à call from " Microsoft" Thatcher my ip adressen woud be stolen
Is such à call to be trusted ?

Thank you

Hans

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Microsoft phone call about stolen IP Address

Microsoft will NEVER call you
Even if Microsoft DID call you, it would be about WIndows, not about your IP address..
This call is a well known scam.

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Thanks Hans vd Mierden
LuckyPup (not verified)
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I have an iMac and use a high speed cable provider for my internet connection. I recently received a letter from the cable company saying that Paramount Pictures notified them that I had transmitted or shared a movie, and that this is copyright infringement. The charge is not true, and I suspect that my IP address was stolen. I usually power off my computer when not in use, so somebody could have stolen my IP address. If I shutdown my computer, but leave the modem on, will this prevent my IP address from being stolen?
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See the other comments in this thread - your IP can't really be "stolen".. but, it (your connection) could easily be used by someone if you leave your modem on AND have an unsecured or poorly-secured wireless access point.
If you have a wireless access point/router, be sure it is secured (password protected)
it is also possible (probable) that if you have anyone else in the household (ie; teenagers) that the infringement alleged against you is true - so if anyone else has access to the computer, i would speak with them.

LuckyPup (not verified)
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Thanks for the quick response. I'm 100% positive that nobody else has been using my computer (just myself and my wife in the house, and my wife does not use it). I'm thinking of leaving my modem on all the time so that there would be a conflict if somebody were to try to use my IP address. Would this work? Should I request the my cable company change my IP address?
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Asking them to change your IP would probably be the best thing to try - i just dont know how willing they would be to do it.. you will probably have to argue with them and mention the letter, etc.. I'm curious to know what they do/say ..

LuckyPup (not verified)
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I will let you know what happens. One more question, if I shut down my computer, but leave the cable modem turned on, could somebody successfully "ping" me, or would they get a 'not connected' response?
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Ehrmm.. let's see.. if you have ONLY a modem, and no other devices connected, when your PC is off, i dont think they will get any ping-responses..
If you have a router or wireless AP device, or any other devices connected, then they would get a ping-reply if they ping'd that device's IP..

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Someone cant really "frame" or steal your IP address unless they totally take over your computer and start making posts from it without your knowledge (not very probable), but here is what may have happened:

Possibility #1: If your Internet service provider (ISP) uses dynamic IP addresses that actually change often ('dynamic' does not always mean it will change), it's POSSIBLE that someone else with the same ISP has also had that IP (that other guy), and they assumed you were the owner of those other 4 accounts.

Possibility #2: If your internet service provider is a large one that uses dynamic proxies (AOL comes to mind), the same thing could have happened, as in #1 - but this is far more likely since #1 would mean the 'other guy' probably lives near you. If you use AOL or similar, and the other guy does too, he could be anywhere in the you.S.

Possibility #3: Your writing style, use of words, misspellings, avatar that you chose, ect, looks/sounds/feels like that "other guy", and they just assumed it was you.

You might be able to send an email to whoever runs the website to plead your case, and maybe they will unban you. But, many websites (such as this website) are so overrun with spammers, trolls, and other a-holes, that they may just ignore your emails. If that's the case, just move on to another website.. The internet is a big place.

richars1
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Re: Possible Stolen IP Address

Thanks. I did log into the site while checking my AOL e-mail. Had I known I would be falsely accused, I would have avoided that altogether. Will it benefit me in the future to refrain from using forums while using an ISP?

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richars1 wrote:

Will it benefit me in the future to refrain from using forums while using an ISP?

I assume that you mean while using AOL? Since, you cant really access the internet without an ISP..

But, to answer, I dont think so. Most website operators are smart enough to accurately detect fake/multiple accounts - honestly, if that website isnt smart enough to do it right, you probably dont want to be there anyway.

richars1
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Re: Possible Stolen IP Address

Thanks so much. I appreciate your help and prompt responses.

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