anyway to access our son's gmail without hacking?

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anyway to access our son's gmail without hacking?

After handling some difficult issues, we allowed our son an ipad and iphone. Our arrangement is that we know his icloud password and can check in. Now he's set up a gmail account, which he says is for privacy with his girlfriend. I want to make sure of that. Without illegal activity, and before yanking his phone, is there anyway to secretly access that account through icloud? or other suggestions?

Also, how do I add his icloud address to keep tabs on him through "Find my iPhone" feature? That function on my iphone is linked to my own account.

Thanks very much!

   

hubby
Re: anyway to access our son's gmail without Hacking?

Gmail is pretty secure, and there is no connection between gMail and iCloud.. The only way that I can think of would be to install some keylogging software on the PC (assuming it's in your home, you own the PC, and he's under 18) to capture his password and/or do automatic screen grabs for you to review. Search for "parental monitoring software" ..

To track him on Find My iPhone, you can use the Find My iPhone app (the app that you install, not the service already in your phone), and just log in to that with his icloud account. You could also use the "find friends" app. you both install it, and he grants you permission to track him via the app..
if you search this site for "find my iphone" or "two icloud accounts" or "track iphone", you'll find many how to pages and videos about it.

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access our son's gmail

...(Hacking). Which I considered briefly, as many "apps" online to download-- but pricey and read they don't work. My son logs into his gmail account from his phone which is on him 24/7, so no ability to I capture his password from our home computers.
Had no idea I could keep tabs on him through "Find my Iphone" on portable devices! Saves me waiting to get home to check if he's really at study hall. BUT- you've written the end user doesn't know how many times their iCloud acct. is logged into. I tell him I check 2X week but I admit it's more often. Won't he know if I track him on portable device, or somehow know I check iCloud more often? He's a very techie kid (yes, underage, 16)-- heard "IP address" records activity? And maybe install software that "rotates or changes" IP numbers...VP something? But it sounds way over my head.
Thanks so much again. He's a good kid that got into a rough crowd...but he's got a stay-at-home mom now :)

hubby
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I you use the "Find my iPhone" solution or the "Find Friends" app, there is no way (that I have ever seen, read, or heard of) to know how often it is used. It IS possible to know when it's being used by the little 'tracking in use' icon that shows (and can be hidden), but you'd have to be looking at the screen all the time.

IP addresses, VPN's, etc, do not apply/will not help.

Anonymous Visitor
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"IP addresses, VPN's, etc, do not apply/will not help."

Sorry, help with what? Do you mean there isn't a way a tech-savvy kid could check my internet use IP address? No need to worry about security or changing it?

On related issue, I also saw news segment on this NSA stuff, saying it's a good idea to do this anyway because anyone can check your IP address? What is your opinion?

hubby
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In checking to see if you have been tracking him on his iPhone, knowing your IP address is not going to help him in any way.

That is correct, it is easy to (no, not "anyone" can do it), but it is not difficult to get your IP address.. but, knowing your IP address is a near worthless piece of information and probably the very least least of your worries assuming you are an average, semi-law abiding person.. If you are doing something that has gotten the NSA's attention, no amount of VPN's or proxies is going to help you anyway..

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How interesting. I knew IP address is easy to get-- my cable guy just updated my box and showed me where he changed it, and where it was on my iphone. But I thought it holds an entire record of every site you've ever been to... so if it's that easy to get my address, couldn't some spying person track my entire life? (Not just talking about my son checking how many times I access his iCloud.) From what you write, I gather even though IP address is easy to find, it's not a record? There is so much talk about privacy now, all very confusing. And many websites trying to sell "secure" ware, whatever that is....It would be so helpful if you posted an article about your thoughts on this!
hubby
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The IP address is not a record.. it's just an address.. just like on your house.. Knowing where you live does not tell me what you do at night.

The record of what you do from that IP address is stored on your PC, stored each time you visit a website, and in your Internet Service Provider's records..

So, if I know your IP, and I want to know what you've been doing, i need to either:
1) hack your computer, and hope you have not cleared/erased that history
2) get a subpoena from a judge to force a website to tell me if you visited it
3) get a subpoena from a judge to force your internet service provider to turn over whatever history they may have

it is technically possible for someone to do real-time spying on what websites you visit via your IP address over the internet, but I have never actually heard of this ever happening.

Most people concerned with online privacy are referring to what information the websites they visit captures/stores/records. Websites like PrivacyTest.com are great at letting you test a website before visiting it, so you know if you will be tracked.

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You are amazing! Such valuable info, and you present it so clearly. I had no idea subpoena's are needed to get info from my internet service provide (Comcast). But now that you mention that we DO have privacy through Comcast (or whomever) I don't want THEM having my info! Or anybody! Shouldn't our internet usage be private? Isn't there any software that does this? Privacytest.com sounds great but it seems a hassle to do this for every site I visit.

So VPN only creates a "secure" shield for the user to prevent being hacked, it doesn't keep your web usage private? I see this option on my iPhone and no idea what it's for. I'm afraid of half my iphone buttons.

Again-- I'm sure many of your readers would appreciate how well you explain this. Please consider posting an article on your home page. I'm so glad I stumbled across your site. Thank you again!

hubby
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A VPN does NOT prevent a user from 'being hacked' .. Let's say that again: A VPN DOES NOT PREVENT A USER FROM BEING HACKED.
A VPN creates a secure connection between your computer, and whatever you are connecting to (ie; your computer, and this website). This prevents someone in the middle from listening in. So a VPN can help prevent some things like "listening" for passwords, etc, but there are 1,000,000,000 other ways you get hacked. Additionally, who's to say that an employee at the VPN company isn't listening in (often, they can.. and do)? and even if the VPN portion is 100% secure, the website you are connecting to may not be.. not to mention the 1,000,000 ways to hack your PC.. or your phone..

I'm putting together a list of things to make articles or videos on (see here for a few previous ones: articles.. or here: our videos ..
Keep checking back for new ones!

Anonymous Visitor
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Absolutely, I'll enjoy going through your previous articles and videos. In fact, your video on using Find My iPhone as GPS led me writing you to begin with. I normally don't post questions but the video was so calm and patient.

Well, I sure don't see the merit of VPN, why Apple has it on their phones or so many websites "warn" you to use it. I guess there are many scams preying on people who don't know the technology (like me.)

Please be sure to advise-- or post suggestions for future-- on EASY software that would add privacy on a person's internet usage: what sites they visit, how often, etc. I'm now really irritated that Comcast has this info!

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