Is it really a diamond?

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LBL
Is it really a diamond?

So Hubby-to-be and I went to the mall today.  He got his suit, and DAMN, he looks hot! He got an all black suit (no tux, too expensive) with a black shirt underneath and a dark red tie with black stripes.  Luckily, he already has the shoes... Anyway, next, we went ring shopping for my engagement ring and for our wedding bands... Wow, jewelry is expensive!  But I want a diamond.  I'm not talking 2ct diamond, but like .5ct would be nice. (obviously we can't afford more carats, payment plan or not)  Well, I fell in LOVE, LOVE, LOVE with this wedding band set. BEAUTIFUL diamond princess cut with little stones around it with a matching band set in white gold.  Total ct weight on both rings was .5.  Now, remember, this is the first place we look.   I'm looking at Hubby-to-be with those "Oh, please, oh, please" eyes, and we decide to step out of the store to make a decision. Well, he tells me his brother got ripped off on the engagement ring.  They told him it was a good diamond, and it wasn't.  I'm not sure why, but Hubby-to-be talked me out of the ring. He said "We need to go to a real expensive store, and ask them how do we know how to tell a good diamond from a bad one?"  Basically, he doesn't want to get ripped off... So... no ring tonight...

So what do y'all think? Any diamond horror stories?  or any tips y'all can give hubby-to-be and me?

   

   

Stevie
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Sounds like this diamond is going to mean something to you.  Then go with a reputable diamond dealer.  I would stay away from places like The Castle, but that's just me.  Figure out the cost of the nicest stone you can afford and then cough up more.  Do some research and you'll see references to size, cut, color, clarity, and the respective grades.  Clarity and color do make a difference.

I'm saying to get what you want now because later on, you will wish you had gotten the bigger, nicer diamond.  It will be hard to trade up later because it was "your diamond".  No one is saying you have to get your diamond now right?  You could wait and just get the bands right now.

Bear
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 Stevie is right.

Once it is your ring, you will cherish it forever.  It's wise to make sure now that you are doing your best to get the "right" ring for you.  And I also agree that clarity and color are the two more important aspects of the four.  Cut is mostly about your own taste - though some cuts hide flaws better than others.  Dullness ruins the whole point of a diamond regardless of it's size, in my opinion.  I'd rather have a nice white shiny sparkley modest ring than a big huge hunker that is cloudy. 

The other thing I've found to be true... some jewelers will try to sell you on the idea of buying a better diamond because of it's "investment or resale value."  Hogwash.  They are just selling.  How many women can you think of that traded in their engagement ring as if it were a car and bought a new one?  None, is my answer.  So don't fall into this trap.  If the diamond you really love is a good color and has nice clarity but is some funky weight - going to the next whole weight does not increase the value to you.  Just makes a bigger commission for the sales person. 

is also right.  A good dealer will not only give you a certificate of authenticity, they should also give you a footprint of the diamond showing the exact cut and the location of all of the flaws.  I personally wouldn't rely upon a loop to identify a fake diamond.  Some of them out there are so very good.  Some jewelers will also give you an appraisal.  If not, you should have one done - and put it someplace safe and fireproof with your other insurance papers.

Here's a story you can take what you wish from.  My cousin's engagement was beautiful.  Very clean, brilliant cut 2 ct.

She got married in the 70s and her setting was very dated.  She decided in the early 90s to go to a simple 5 prong setting.  At the time there was a guy who basically got all the jewelry business from our family (and had for many years).  Started at Tiffany and had been in the business a forever.  Anyway, she had her diamond reset.  In 2005, she moved and got new homeowner's and had her jewelry reappraised.  It's not her diamond.  It's a fake. 

Thing one:  Best case scenario, trusted family jeweler and she got ripped off anyway.  I'm not saying trust no one - just be diligent and be informed.  Make no assumptions based upon where you are and whom you are dealing with - unless the guy is wearing a rain coat at the corner near the subway. 

Thing two:  She looked at the diamond she wore for twenty years for another 15 and did not know it wasn't hers. 

What's my point?  I'm not sure, I haven't had enough coffee.  Just thought I'd put that all out there.

And congratulations.  Wedding planning is fun.  Enjoy every moment.

 

"god have mercy on the man who doubts what he's sure of"

LBL
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Wow.. man, that sucks for her.. see, that's what I'm scared of!!! 

 

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Bear
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It does suck, no doubt.  And the first thing we all thought of was how much that diamond was worth on the market today.  But the truth is, that's only relevant if you have it scheduled and you get full replacement value if it gets stolen.

And yes, the injustice of the situation and betrayal of a "trusted" person.

But she looked at it - as the rest of us did - for fifteen years and still loved it.  Still caught the sunlight in the backyard.  And the Uncle that says, "hey, you get HBO on that thing" still said it.

So... I don't know.  Of course it should be the diamond her husband picked out for her.  But she loved it not knowing it wasn't.

I still haven't had enough coffee, am I making any sense?  :)

 

 

"god have mercy on the man who doubts what he's sure of"

Stevie
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[quote=Bare]

Once it is your ring, you will cherish it forever.  It's wise to make sure now that you are doing your best to get the "right" ring for you.  And I also agree that clarity and color are the two more important aspects of the four.  Cut is mostly about your own taste - though some cuts hide flaws better than others.  Dullness ruins the whole point of a diamond regardless of it's size, in my opinion.  I'd rather have a nice white shiny sparkley modest ring than a big huge hunker that is cloudy.[/quote]I HATE buying something important like this and later wishing I had gotten the "better" one.  Some things don't matter but some things do.  To me, the diamond that she sees on her hand everyday is one of those things that matters.

PinkJammies
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I settled with just bands in the beginning and a few years later my husband bought me a 1ct ring. I don't even wear my bands anymore. He also bought me a 4ct bracelet that I never wear so what you like now, you may not like later. Wedding rings are not, you taste changes.

DODO
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I concur.

 

Diamonds and gems usually have a certificate of authenticity.

 

When I got engaged, the ring that was given to me had papers with it.  It is safer to get one with a certificate.

 

=o)

 

 

iamthedevil
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I used to be a supervisor at a retail store that had a decent jewelry dept. A good diamond ring will have a certificate of authenticity with pics and all the good info. I don't know if all stores or any still do it that way.

When I got engaged, I picked the wife out a good moderate-sized ring. The sales person should offer you a better look at it thru a magnifying glass. Look for flaws and color. Its how diamonds are "rated".

It also didn't hurt in my situation that we got a great jewelry discount and I bought it on an "extra % for employees day". Remember most jewelry is marked up quite a bit. We used to get 50% off half the dept, and 20-30 off watches and diamonds and some other stuff. I think I paid about $3300 for a ring that had a tag for $5500.

LBL
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I'm only shopping for diamonds now that have that certificate...  we may just end up getting plain white gold bands.... because damn it, I WANT MY DIAMOND! lol  jk... I don't know.. I may just settle for a garbage twist tie around my finger...

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Bear
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[quote=LBL]

 I may just settle for a garbage twist tie around my finger...
 

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It's my wedding band - that we took our vows on - that means the most to me.  Don't get me wrong, I'm very sentimental about my engagement ring - but it's the wedding band that is the symbol of the unbroken circle.  That moment of slipping it onto each other's fingers.  You'll remember that a lot - especially if he's done something that makes you want to beat his brains in.  :)

Plus, if he REALLY f's up - and you don't already have a big diamond... ;) just kidding - maybe. :)

 

"god have mercy on the man who doubts what he's sure of"

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